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		<title>By: Top Vietnamese Tech Blog Posts - 2008 &#124; Top Vietnamese Tech Blog Posts - 2008 - Công nghệ số</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Thấy gì từ giao diện mới của VnExpress (04/05/2008) - Lê Duy Tiên - Tiếng Việt    Facebook Vietnamese language gaining traction, how can Vietnamese Facebook clones survive? - HarryD - Tiếng Anh    Thống kê cho 200 website hàng đầu Việt Nam - Nguyễn Công [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got bord of facebook... maybe i have out grow my &quot;wasting time&quot; age... i am a facebook user n help do some translation in hope that vietnamese people can use it too...

because of cultural influence, i find it is hard to use tamtay, faceviet n such... and the new site yobanbe... most of the link are odd... dont connect u anywhere... or take u out of the main page without tellin you so... 

i agree on yahoỏ 360 is a popular feature on yahoo on vietnam, because u can write blog... 

i think if those new social network could get someone to write about blog, incorporate job posting, event promoting for certain things....

most teen who are 13-17 use those social network... but when you get a bit older, u would not even care about those site... why is the reason... you have to much things to do... maybe if those social network site could also add reminder, easy to access, doesn&#039;t require too much memory to load up, n fast and secure site, and create an asmosphere for people to come in... have an active teams to monitor, holding discussion about what is goin on in vietnam n so on...

i just know the miss vietnam can&#039;t crown the new miss vietnam her title... we all can assume the reason: i bet the sponsor want to sleep with her n she refuse... so he kick her off, not aware of the fact that people can think... also, who give him the title to kick someone off... there is no correct system here... no right, no protection, no image... we will automatically assume that &quot;those host show&quot; just want to sleep with those girls... n give off the bad vipe...

if those new site can have news, games n such... i&#039;m sure most of people would spend 15&#039; of their time goin in there to read n check out new stuff... 

but i&#039;m aware vietnamese gov&#039;t isn&#039;t much of a supporter like the chinese... so most efford n attempt will be failed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got bord of facebook&#8230; maybe i have out grow my &#8220;wasting time&#8221; age&#8230; i am a facebook user n help do some translation in hope that vietnamese people can use it too&#8230;</p>
<p>because of cultural influence, i find it is hard to use tamtay, faceviet n such&#8230; and the new site yobanbe&#8230; most of the link are odd&#8230; dont connect u anywhere&#8230; or take u out of the main page without tellin you so&#8230; </p>
<p>i agree on yahoỏ 360 is a popular feature on yahoo on vietnam, because u can write blog&#8230; </p>
<p>i think if those new social network could get someone to write about blog, incorporate job posting, event promoting for certain things&#8230;.</p>
<p>most teen who are 13-17 use those social network&#8230; but when you get a bit older, u would not even care about those site&#8230; why is the reason&#8230; you have to much things to do&#8230; maybe if those social network site could also add reminder, easy to access, doesn&#8217;t require too much memory to load up, n fast and secure site, and create an asmosphere for people to come in&#8230; have an active teams to monitor, holding discussion about what is goin on in vietnam n so on&#8230;</p>
<p>i just know the miss vietnam can&#8217;t crown the new miss vietnam her title&#8230; we all can assume the reason: i bet the sponsor want to sleep with her n she refuse&#8230; so he kick her off, not aware of the fact that people can think&#8230; also, who give him the title to kick someone off&#8230; there is no correct system here&#8230; no right, no protection, no image&#8230; we will automatically assume that &#8220;those host show&#8221; just want to sleep with those girls&#8230; n give off the bad vipe&#8230;</p>
<p>if those new site can have news, games n such&#8230; i&#8217;m sure most of people would spend 15&#8242; of their time goin in there to read n check out new stuff&#8230; </p>
<p>but i&#8217;m aware vietnamese gov&#8217;t isn&#8217;t much of a supporter like the chinese&#8230; so most efford n attempt will be failed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dungiis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dungiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact Vietnamese support in Facebook will not affect Vietnamese FB clones, they just copy the &quot;skin&quot; of FB rather than true core concept of FB :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact Vietnamese support in Facebook will not affect Vietnamese FB clones, they just copy the &#8220;skin&#8221; of FB rather than true core concept of FB <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HarryD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HarryD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tai,

There are too many social networks in Vietnam that covering them all would be too overwhelming and boring to my audience, most of whom prefer a &quot;less is more&quot; and squarely focused approach. Implications mentioned in my pieces can be shared with most of other Vietnamese SNS as well. I will also review other SNS in the future if that can be interesting enough.

Regarding Blog (only) Platform, there are two approaches: the technology and the business model ones. Anyone can claim they have the blog platform technology, but it is difficult to become a truly blog platform business model. Think of WordPress, TypePad and Twitter as the few that can be considered to be truly &quot;platforms&quot; for bloggers. So in Vietnam, there is no &quot;blog platform&quot; in terms of business model yet. I don&#039;t argue with many who claim they have developed their own blog platform technology/programming.

Social features have now become a standard for most of online publishers in the US (you can write you comments on almost all of news article, even in the New York Times), so expect this to become  common features in all Vietnamese web 1.0 in the coming time as well. 

Social networks with social features will become a commodity in Vietnam very soon. Remember we are entering 2009, not in 2003 when MySpace and Facebook are the novelties. Think of something further, like a new business model, rather than another social networks with blogging and social functionalities. Sadly enough, many Vietnamese SNS are launching like there is no tomorow. I wish them well weather the credit crunch intact by the end of 2009.

Nhon,

A great part of FB is its ecosystem, including those seemingly stupid widgets. Imagine these widgets can be translated fastly and &quot;scalably&quot; like FB Vietnamese, and Vietnamese soon can approach this huge apps inventory overnight. That&#039;s too good to be true for us FB users.

Ban,

You&#039;re totally right. My addition: all the &quot;small&quot; functionalities made the FB ecosystem. To borrow Michael Porter, you can copy one thing but you can not clone that whole ecosystem. Know thyself well does help in cloning web 2.0 models then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tai,</p>
<p>There are too many social networks in Vietnam that covering them all would be too overwhelming and boring to my audience, most of whom prefer a &#8220;less is more&#8221; and squarely focused approach. Implications mentioned in my pieces can be shared with most of other Vietnamese SNS as well. I will also review other SNS in the future if that can be interesting enough.</p>
<p>Regarding Blog (only) Platform, there are two approaches: the technology and the business model ones. Anyone can claim they have the blog platform technology, but it is difficult to become a truly blog platform business model. Think of WordPress, TypePad and Twitter as the few that can be considered to be truly &#8220;platforms&#8221; for bloggers. So in Vietnam, there is no &#8220;blog platform&#8221; in terms of business model yet. I don&#8217;t argue with many who claim they have developed their own blog platform technology/programming.</p>
<p>Social features have now become a standard for most of online publishers in the US (you can write you comments on almost all of news article, even in the New York Times), so expect this to become  common features in all Vietnamese web 1.0 in the coming time as well. </p>
<p>Social networks with social features will become a commodity in Vietnam very soon. Remember we are entering 2009, not in 2003 when MySpace and Facebook are the novelties. Think of something further, like a new business model, rather than another social networks with blogging and social functionalities. Sadly enough, many Vietnamese SNS are launching like there is no tomorow. I wish them well weather the credit crunch intact by the end of 2009.</p>
<p>Nhon,</p>
<p>A great part of FB is its ecosystem, including those seemingly stupid widgets. Imagine these widgets can be translated fastly and &#8220;scalably&#8221; like FB Vietnamese, and Vietnamese soon can approach this huge apps inventory overnight. That&#8217;s too good to be true for us FB users.</p>
<p>Ban,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re totally right. My addition: all the &#8220;small&#8221; functionalities made the FB ecosystem. To borrow Michael Porter, you can copy one thing but you can not clone that whole ecosystem. Know thyself well does help in cloning web 2.0 models then.</p>
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		<title>By: Duc Ban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duc Ban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Harry,

Don&#039;t worry about these clones, if they have their own reason to online, I think Facebook&#039;s new language pack isn&#039;t a big trouble. The sheep were dead before the wolf come, my friend.

At my point: These clones doesn&#039;t have any chance in Vietnam because they can&#039;t become Facebook Vietnam, not because Facebook or because Facebook release Vietnamese version. The reason is Facebook is not only a social networking, but also a very very strong platform. They have FBML, APIs, Facebook Connect system... I don&#039;t think any of these clones can build a platform like that. All they think about is just a website, everyone can build a website like that, I am very sure about it.

Every success story begin by a concept, but behind the concept is a solid platform.

Duc Ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harry,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about these clones, if they have their own reason to online, I think Facebook&#8217;s new language pack isn&#8217;t a big trouble. The sheep were dead before the wolf come, my friend.</p>
<p>At my point: These clones doesn&#8217;t have any chance in Vietnam because they can&#8217;t become Facebook Vietnam, not because Facebook or because Facebook release Vietnamese version. The reason is Facebook is not only a social networking, but also a very very strong platform. They have FBML, APIs, Facebook Connect system&#8230; I don&#8217;t think any of these clones can build a platform like that. All they think about is just a website, everyone can build a website like that, I am very sure about it.</p>
<p>Every success story begin by a concept, but behind the concept is a solid platform.</p>
<p>Duc Ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Nhon.PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nhon.PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Harry,

If Facebook come in Viet Nam, it&#039;s sound good. I use Facebook everyday that I haven&#039;t see anysite can provide many widgets as Facebook can. I&#039;ll look fw to see it in Viet Nam.

Great news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harry,</p>
<p>If Facebook come in Viet Nam, it&#8217;s sound good. I use Facebook everyday that I haven&#8217;t see anysite can provide many widgets as Facebook can. I&#8217;ll look fw to see it in Viet Nam.</p>
<p>Great news!</p>
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		<title>By: TaiTran</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaiTran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Harry,

You covered 4 Facebook clones.

What do you think of other Social Networks and Blogging Platform that provide certain Social features?

Regards,
Tai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harry,</p>
<p>You covered 4 Facebook clones.</p>
<p>What do you think of other Social Networks and Blogging Platform that provide certain Social features?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Tai</p>
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