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	<title>Comments on: Vietnamese Facebook clones’ face off: FaceViet vs. GuongMat vs. Tamtay vs. VC Corp vs. you name it&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d throw another new site into the game, http://www.thegioiban.com. Hosted in the States, has a clean crisp FB style, but not many members. Might only be a matter of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d throw another new site into the game, <a href="http://www.thegioiban.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegioiban.com</a>. Hosted in the States, has a clean crisp FB style, but not many members. Might only be a matter of time.</p>
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		<title>By: HarryD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HarryD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AnKim: thanks for sharing the info, but please keep those &quot;clean&quot; from porn or political links otherwise I&#039;ll have problem with censorship circle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AnKim: thanks for sharing the info, but please keep those &#8220;clean&#8221; from porn or political links otherwise I&#8217;ll have problem with censorship circle.</p>
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		<title>By: ANKIM.ORG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANKIM.ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faceviet and guongmat both are located in US and VC Corp&#039;s sites are in vietnam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faceviet and guongmat both are located in US and VC Corp&#8217;s sites are in vietnam.</p>
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		<title>By: Do Kiet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do Kiet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both guongmat and faceviet bought cheap php script online to copy facebook. Those 2 are exactly the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both guongmat and faceviet bought cheap php script online to copy facebook. Those 2 are exactly the same</p>
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		<title>By: David Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, following the line of comments, I can see Nam is working for tamtay.vn :)

This kind of attitude and closed-minded personality is what keep technology in Vietnam so behind with the rest of the world.

I personally don&#039;t see the need to move anywhere else since my 360 is still working and Yahoo doesn&#039;t seem to close it, but tamtay definitely lose my account :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, following the line of comments, I can see Nam is working for tamtay.vn <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This kind of attitude and closed-minded personality is what keep technology in Vietnam so behind with the rest of the world.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t see the need to move anywhere else since my 360 is still working and Yahoo doesn&#8217;t seem to close it, but tamtay definitely lose my account <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nam</title>
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		<dc:creator>nam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FV is a joke! they bought php script for a few bucks and claim fv to be the next big thing? come on get real? i just dont understand how people with MBAs are that naive

fv is now using a different script which is a lot better but still a light weight php script and there is no way they can scale up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FV is a joke! they bought php script for a few bucks and claim fv to be the next big thing? come on get real? i just dont understand how people with MBAs are that naive</p>
<p>fv is now using a different script which is a lot better but still a light weight php script and there is no way they can scale up</p>
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		<title>By: MotTramDo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotTramDo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting debate. I see much of our concern so far is whether these copycats will succeed. But how about Facebook reactions. With so many clones it must have done something. An effort to localized facebook had been secretly launched (http://nus.facebook.com/translations/). Will these clones useful for finding oversea friends who are on Facebook? Apparently not.

However, much of Vietnamese population don&#039;t know about Facebook so the cake is still big for them.

I would like to let Vietnam locals to know more about all these copycat phenomenon, will love to see your blog and continuing debate on mottramdo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate. I see much of our concern so far is whether these copycats will succeed. But how about Facebook reactions. With so many clones it must have done something. An effort to localized facebook had been secretly launched (<a href="http://nus.facebook.com/translations/)" rel="nofollow">http://nus.facebook.com/translations/)</a>. Will these clones useful for finding oversea friends who are on Facebook? Apparently not.</p>
<p>However, much of Vietnamese population don&#8217;t know about Facebook so the cake is still big for them.</p>
<p>I would like to let Vietnam locals to know more about all these copycat phenomenon, will love to see your blog and continuing debate on mottramdo.com</p>
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		<title>By: Tran Minh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tran Minh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t really matter what now, since the &quot;big guy&quot; is on its way to crush FaceViet and VCcorp 

Make a good comparison: 
VCCorp has financial power, coders and more than that back up from its others web propertities =  technology + financial + political power. However, what&#039;s VC core business? Baamboo, and they don&#039;t really want to lose that market to somebody else, do they?

FaceViet has a good team and a working product, so ? Not enough!

The &quot;big guy&quot; has been pushing rumors all over the place that it will bring one of the best web 2.0 application that nobody has ever seen in Vietnam. 

I think the coding is not something important because what if you have Google or Yahoo script (http://ddth.com/showthread.php?t=143323) , faceviet ( http://freecodevn.com/for@um/showthread.php?t=34312 ) script, would you ever be able to scale up your search engine to be as big as Google or Yahoo ? No, no and no. 

My point of view is once this market getting to crowded by tens of competitors, all we can do is pray and enjoy the show. Because it is going to be fun, and it is going to be dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter what now, since the &#8220;big guy&#8221; is on its way to crush FaceViet and VCcorp </p>
<p>Make a good comparison:<br />
VCCorp has financial power, coders and more than that back up from its others web propertities =  technology + financial + political power. However, what&#8217;s VC core business? Baamboo, and they don&#8217;t really want to lose that market to somebody else, do they?</p>
<p>FaceViet has a good team and a working product, so ? Not enough!</p>
<p>The &#8220;big guy&#8221; has been pushing rumors all over the place that it will bring one of the best web 2.0 application that nobody has ever seen in Vietnam. </p>
<p>I think the coding is not something important because what if you have Google or Yahoo script (<a href="http://ddth.com/showthread.php?t=143323" rel="nofollow">http://ddth.com/showthread.php?t=143323</a>) , faceviet ( <a href="http://freecodevn.com/for@um/showthread.php?t=34312" rel="nofollow">http://freecodevn.com/for@um/showthread.php?t=34312</a> ) script, would you ever be able to scale up your search engine to be as big as Google or Yahoo ? No, no and no. </p>
<p>My point of view is once this market getting to crowded by tens of competitors, all we can do is pray and enjoy the show. Because it is going to be fun, and it is going to be dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: Duc Loc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duc Loc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have anybody noticed that most of the users in faceviet are fake. I have tried to send messages to many people and nobody ever replied. Another weird thing is that most users don&#039;t even have a photo or are not associated with any particular group. 

I understand the need to get the first few thousand users and many social network inflate their numbers by registering fake users, but this seems to be overwhelming because most of the users on faceviet are fake. Can anybody confirm that? 

Also with so many bugs as of current version and the design is almost an exact copy of the original facebook, I wonder if faceviet just bought a cheap facebook clone script on the net and use that as the base to their site. 

I searched around for a little while and found a few sites that offer php scripts that can create a facebook clone. 

Here is the list:
1/ http://www.influxive.com/isociety/index.php 
You can test ride it with
username is tomchen@ima.com
password is admin

2/ http://forums.phpfox.com/showthread.php?t=11747
This is supposed to be a mod for phpFox, social network software that originally created to look like myspace clone. 

There are plenty others facebook clone scripts, but most of those are really badly coded. I hope that Faceviet is not based on one of those because they will have problem when they need to scale up and handle bigger traffics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have anybody noticed that most of the users in faceviet are fake. I have tried to send messages to many people and nobody ever replied. Another weird thing is that most users don&#8217;t even have a photo or are not associated with any particular group. </p>
<p>I understand the need to get the first few thousand users and many social network inflate their numbers by registering fake users, but this seems to be overwhelming because most of the users on faceviet are fake. Can anybody confirm that? </p>
<p>Also with so many bugs as of current version and the design is almost an exact copy of the original facebook, I wonder if faceviet just bought a cheap facebook clone script on the net and use that as the base to their site. </p>
<p>I searched around for a little while and found a few sites that offer php scripts that can create a facebook clone. </p>
<p>Here is the list:<br />
1/ <a href="http://www.influxive.com/isociety/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.influxive.com/isociety/index.php</a><br />
You can test ride it with<br />
username is <a href="mailto:tomchen@ima.com">tomchen@ima.com</a><br />
password is admin</p>
<p>2/ <a href="http://forums.phpfox.com/showthread.php?t=11747" rel="nofollow">http://forums.phpfox.com/showthread.php?t=11747</a><br />
This is supposed to be a mod for phpFox, social network software that originally created to look like myspace clone. </p>
<p>There are plenty others facebook clone scripts, but most of those are really badly coded. I hope that Faceviet is not based on one of those because they will have problem when they need to scale up and handle bigger traffics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoang Tran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoang Tran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nam: I am not sure if you know what you are talking about? Tamtay.vn is a great place for R rated video clips. Their marketing strategy is &quot;Sex sells no matter what&quot;. And I am not blaming them because it works with the Vietnamese internet users. But do I want to have my high school bros and sisters go in there to learn something? Hek no!

@X man: VCC is big in financial because IDGVV is backing them up. Doesn&#039;t mean that IDGVV is their best buddy to go with them all the way to the end. VCC needs to focus on what they do best which is Baamboo right now and Sannhac later. I personally know a group of guys in Europe is working on a product that would compete with sannhac.com. Sannhac.com is a good product but VCC is pushing them too slow because they think there would be no competition. Wrong thought!

@tanng: I do agree with tanng that VCC and Vinagame can be a b*(ch and kill a smaller start-up in a few days by all the tricks that they used before. It is an open market and people do what they need to survive, (ethical or not). The legal problem is the BIGGEST problem anybody have to face when they do business in Vietnam.

I love this quote:&quot;My 2 cents is marketing and money may have some impact, but their importance is reduced to nearly zero. That is the beautifulness of the Internet.&quot; Money might not be able to reduce to zero but marketing effort can  be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nam: I am not sure if you know what you are talking about? Tamtay.vn is a great place for R rated video clips. Their marketing strategy is &#8220;Sex sells no matter what&#8221;. And I am not blaming them because it works with the Vietnamese internet users. But do I want to have my high school bros and sisters go in there to learn something? Hek no!</p>
<p>@X man: VCC is big in financial because IDGVV is backing them up. Doesn&#8217;t mean that IDGVV is their best buddy to go with them all the way to the end. VCC needs to focus on what they do best which is Baamboo right now and Sannhac later. I personally know a group of guys in Europe is working on a product that would compete with sannhac.com. Sannhac.com is a good product but VCC is pushing them too slow because they think there would be no competition. Wrong thought!</p>
<p>@tanng: I do agree with tanng that VCC and Vinagame can be a b*(ch and kill a smaller start-up in a few days by all the tricks that they used before. It is an open market and people do what they need to survive, (ethical or not). The legal problem is the BIGGEST problem anybody have to face when they do business in Vietnam.</p>
<p>I love this quote:&#8221;My 2 cents is marketing and money may have some impact, but their importance is reduced to nearly zero. That is the beautifulness of the Internet.&#8221; Money might not be able to reduce to zero but marketing effort can  be.</p>
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